Durham resident Phil Isenberg has asked that we post the following:
I am writing to support the letter of Jayson Seaman (see comments to “ORSCD Election Results: Unofficial Totals”, March 13, 2012) and to repeat his call for an end to anonymous (and pseudonymous) entries in this blog. I feel that such a step would go a long way to reduce the nasty name-calling and empty posturing that sometimes appears here, and help a return to civil discourse on the issues facing this community.
I’m sure that all members of the Oyster River community would agree that this past year or two have been a very contentious and difficult time. The effort to work toward resolution of strongly-felt and often emotional arguments has frequently been undermined by questionable statements or accusations put forward on this blog by people who have chosen not to be recognized by name. Obviously, not all anonymous entries have been harmful, but there have certainly been a few people (one cannot tell how many) who have used the opportunity to post here to incite bitter and divisive attitudes without having to take any responsibility for their words. Such posts are equivalent to expressing disagreement with another person by walking up to their house, throwing a rock through their window, and then running away. Such actions are sneaky, cowardly, and ultimately no better than vandalism. They should have no place in a blog that purports to be a community forum.
Tom Bebbington has replied to Mr. Seaman’s letter, saying that their current policy of allowing pseudonyms is “the best we can do”, given limitations of time and technology. He also states concerns of censorship, claiming that he does not want to delete posts simply because they contain “things we may not like”. Maybe so, but perhaps the rest of the community can help him in this task.
I suggest, in the absence of the ability of the administrators to sufficiently monitor this blog, that those of us who deplore the tactics of hidden provocateurs simply refuse to recognize the posts that are not signed by the writer’s full name and town of residence. Anonymous posts would simply be challanged with a “Who are you?” Meanwhile the content of the post would be ignored unless and until the writer claims ownership and responsibility for the words he or she insisted on sharing. This policy cannot be confused with censorship, since the content is not considered at all. If people feel strongly enough to write in, and are willing to stand by their words through clearly identifying themselves, a reasonable dialogue is much more likely to result.
Who is “Sore Loser”? Who is “OR”? Who is “StopDavidTaylor”? Why are you hiding? If you want to make a positive contribution rather than continuing to be part of the problem, stop throwing rocks and join the conversation.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Phil Isenberg
Durham
Once anonymous comments and any comments are removed from this blog, it will lose it's credibility as a non-biased forum for the community. It will become like FORE or ORCSDcleanslate. Basically, it will become agenda driven, comment and opinion editing, fox news-esque type of place.
ReplyDeletePerhaps mine and other opinions have been disagreed with, but I don't think it is at all equal to "throwing a rock through their window, and then running away". If you take offense, you do not have to read. If you feel the opinions and comments expressed do not line up with your view...then you can express yourself as well with a response. I believe it's that simple. Obviously, any hate or violence inducing rhetoric should be shun and removed. But harsh opinions about the community or just that....opinions.
Perhaps these anonymous comments are here because we don't wanted to be subjected to some folks in the community who like to target those who disagree with them. We all have the right to post and I don't believe knowing someones identity has any bearing on the conversation and serves no purpose other than to 'just know'. I suppose it does help if some folks want to be able to know who to snub in the local grocery line or who not to invite to the next social events. Harsh opinions are a reality in all communities.
We can always got to www.reddit.com/r/orcsd to post opinions as well if censorship takes hold.
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ReplyDeleteDear NoRulesOnFreeSpeech:
ReplyDeleteYour comment presents a false choice. I don’t notice that Dean Rubine, Cal Jarvis, Mike McClurkin, Mike Lane, or David Taylor have any problem standing by their statements and opinions. If you want people to take your comments seriously, then sign your name.
You mention this blog’s “credibility as a non-biased forum”, and that’s exactly what you and this blog’s administrators should be concerned about. You may not be aware of this, but currently this blog’s credibility is pretty low in most of the community.
You also state that “We all have a right to post”, but that is patently not true. Your “right” to smear other members of the community anonymously is entirely subject to the decisions of the administrators of this blog, and I am encouraging them to take a closer look at whether they want to continue acting as a repository for the spewing of internet trolls (a more accurate term for what you call “harsh opinions” that you are afraid to own up to). If you and your fellow ranters have started another blog on reddit.com, more power to you. But I hope that a blog wanting to be thought of as the “Oyster River Community Resource” will have higher standards than that.
So, I simply ask: “Who are you?”
Sincerely,
Phil Isenberg
Durham
Dear Mr. Isenberg,
ReplyDeleteI don't believe I asked for anyone to take my comments seriously. I simply stated my opinion. I appreciate your feedback and will take it into consideration the next time I choose to express myself. I also will take into consideration your opinions on our rights as internet users.
I also don't believe any comments have "smeared" any member of the community no more than what has been done publicly. Is it only okay to publicly smear the reputations of community service members when stating your full name? Does that then make it ok? Good for those folks who have chosen to make a name for themselves as community watchmen by starting comment censored blogs, filed and won lawsuits against the school board, and overall taken action against the things they feel needed change. I applaud them for their courage.
The bottom line is that anyone should be able to make their voice heard. It's up to each individual to decide how they feel about someones comments, anonymous or not. We can all decide for ourselves what to disagree with, what to agree with, and what might be "the spewing of internet trolls".
And as I state previously...If a comment doesn't incite a call for hate or violence, then it shouldn't be censored. This is just my opinion. I believe Tom and Seth have done a great job enforcing this.
I also choose not to answer your question, "Who are you?" If that means my opinions will not be taken seriously and lose credibility amongst the community and readers of this blog, so be it. It is up to the individual to decide.
Also...for further reading on this and some legal case studies...
ReplyDeletehttps://www.eff.org/issues/anonymity
Mr. Isenberg:
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comments; we appreciate feedback for the community, and your post has raised some interesting issues. We strive to be responsive to our readers, so I’d like to give our perspective.
First, with regard to “trolls”: while we have plenty of pseudonymous commenters here, we have (thankfully) few trolls. A troll is not just anyone who disagrees with you, but rather the digital equivalent of a heckler: someone who is not out to add perspective, or engage in debate; but rather to pick a fight, make a scene, or demean you personally.
The first line of defense in dealing with a troll is to pay no attention to them. We have had a troll or two in the past; they eventually went away after we ignored them long enough. Had they persisted in throwing the digital equivalent of rotten tomatoes, we would have blocked them.
My own view is that someone who leaves a comment with a well put and polite dissenting view, whether they choose to sign their own name or not, is actually a valuable member of this community. The response should be to listen and learn, engage with him or her and expand the conversation, because more speech is better than less.
Second, while I understand the desire to promote civility and decorum, it’s also clear that the debates surrounding our schools are uniquely positioned to push people’s buttons, touching as they do such issues as the spending of public money and the future of our children. These are highly-charged, emotional issues for many (myself included, as my anyone who saw my near-ballistic reaction to the FORE’s attempt to derail the hiring of Dr. Morse can attest). Things can get testy.
I try to model the behavior I want to see on this blog, but unfortunately, keeping the conversation open means letting a few spammers and haters through the cracks. But as we see it, a little uncouth behavior is a small price to pay for an open and lively discussion.
Again, many thanks for your comments.
--Tom Bebbington